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I agree that the government is lying.  Shutting down of the government, though, won't remove these people from power. 

I agree that God alone is our Source. That is far easier, of course, to say when there's money in the bank.  Living by faith is much more difficult.  I've largely been doing it with my health issues for about five years.  If I could, I would prefer to be able to go to a doctor and have some tests done. And I suspect that if I had competent medical care, I'd be on oxygen. But the GREAT PHYSICIAN keeps me going somehow.  [biggrin] So, can God take care of us financially? Yep. He has never let us down, even if we are hanging on with our fingernails. Somehow, He has always provided. Thank you for your concern and prayers.  The teens in our church are doing great. The class has grown some. No one to care for the little ones yet.  - - Gayle
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God has told us that He will remove evil people from power via His ways. For instance, some Democrats in the White House are going to fall like dominoes. There will be a changing of the guard in the White House and in various levels of leadership throughout the country. “But with God all things are possible”. I saw the following prophecy about finances soon after you had said that you never hear anything about it:

"This is a Season of SUPERNATURAL INCREASE for GOD's people!....INCREASE in every area of your life.....Increase in Wisdom, Increase in Health, Increase in Finances, Increase of Favor, Increase in Household Salvation, Increase of GOD's Goodness, Grace and Mercy.....The Holy Spirit is opening The Flood Gates of GOD's Abundance! In spite of all the wickedness and evil in the World , our GOD Of MORE, OUR GOD OF INCREASE, OUR GOD OF ABUNDANCE, IS CONTINUING TO RAIN DOWN KINGDOM BLESSINGS ON HIS KINGDOM PEOPLE!...STAND IN FAITH TODAY, CONTINUING TO SOW YOUR SEED, BELIEVING YOU RECEIVE.. Watch and see how EL SHADDAI, THE "GOD OF MORE THAN ENOUGH", BREAKS INTO THE "NOW' OF YOUR LIFE WITH HIS INCREASE AND PROVISION!"

I rebuke the spirit of breathing problems in Gayle in Jesus’ name! I command her heart and lungs to function normally in the name of Jesus! I speak a flow of oxygen into the passageways of her heart and lungs in Jesus’ name. “Breathe on me, Breath of God”. “For virtue went out of Him and healed them all.”

Lord, send a Sunday School teacher for the youngest children so that they can be with their own age group. In Jesus’ name.


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Gayle, here are some highlights about the government shutdown. The article was actually much longer.

Question and answers about government shutdown:
Raju Chebium, Gannett Washington Bureau 6:03 a.m. EDT September 28, 2013
Among the affects of a federal shutdown: delays in processing passport and visa applications, issuing gun permits, continuing U.S. bankruptcy court cases and approving mortgage applications.

Government shutdown
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
If budget deal is not worked out, federal government will shut down after midnight Monday
Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid payments would continue during a shutdown
About 41 percent of nondefense federal employees would furlough.
WASHINGTON – If Democrats and Republicans don't reach a spending deal by midnight Monday, a partial government shutdown will take effect.
The 2013 fiscal year ends at midnight Monday. Many federal programs and activities will stop beginning Tuesday and won't restart until a new deal is in place.

Here's a guide to understanding how Congress got to this stage and how a shutdown would affect you.
Question: Will the entire government come to a standstill if a deal isn't reached?
Answer: No. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and other "entitlement" programs that are funded automatically will escape the worst effects. But government agencies that rely on yearly congressional appropriations will be hit a lot harder. That includes giant agencies such as the Pentagon and smaller ones such as the National Park Service.

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I don't buy the lies of the government, no. I'm not sure I understand, though. For the government is shut down, and there is no backup in place and no new management that honors God. We still have our Republicans and Democrats battling it out. I am not saying that down the road that God won't replace the corrupt leaders, but we could be in for a long battle...unless good bows wholly to evil. Our personal plans got smashed because of the shutdown, which was a disappointment. But the Lord remains on His throne. Our son and daughter may have lost money on what was to be their gift to us (for hubby's birthday). Our daughter won't be paid for however long this takes, but God has a plan in all this. We'll help her where we can. My sister will help, maybe. Our son might. And we'll all tighten our belts a little bit more. Thank you for your prayers.
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Lord, let Your divine Plan manifest in the situation created by the government shutdown. Provide for those who are suffering lack because of it. You are Jehovah-Jireh, our Provider. In Jesus’ name.

 

Gayle, I have read that we will have to trust completely in the Lord or we will fall prey to the enemy. An earthquake in southern CA has been predicted for today or soon thereafter with a tsunami following. People are urged to seek higher ground, to stay indoors, and to put oil on their doorpost and windows to represent the Passover in the Bible for protection. It will affect people globally because it will open fissures and faults in the U.S. and in other nations. God is sickened by the homosexuality and by Hollywood (especially the latest movie about Jesus). Once that earthquake comes, things will happen rapidly. The American Center for Law and Justice is exposing corruptions daily in the government and presenting lawsuits against them, etc. Have faith, stay extra close to the Lord, and trust Him completely. Pray, read the Word, praise, worship, and confess Scriptural promises aloud. We are to have an early winter with unusual snow and wind.


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We have family in Southern California, so I hope God will be gracious. Among the darkness there are amazing Christians in Southern California who are in the battle for our country. It's in God's hands.

I follow what the ACLJ is doing, yes. 

As I've shared in the past, I have a pretty strong devotional time (reading, praying three Bible books; doing Greek word study on the fourth; praying blessing verses; and working to memorize a chapter in Romans. Plus each day I am working to organize my Bible materials, which often involves reading / skim-reading an article I've saved.)  Do I have "enough" faith and trust? I haven't a clue.  I am only thankful the Lord is faithful even when we are faithless.  We live in a difficult time, no doubt.  I'm hopeful this will be a milder winter than last year. We are so wholly unprepared for a bad winter. We don't have the wood we need, etc. Finances are slim. But somehow, God will see us through it all. 

Having more issues with the teens in our church, so prayer is appreciated. One girl who couldn't come in the past is being allowed to do so.  But the woman (who worked with our younger children) was arrested. She would pile kids in her truck to take them to church. We don't have anyone to go pick them up now. Roof still leaks.  Another work day planned for a week from Saturday. Also, my hubby will do the sermon that weekend. We take a step forward, a step back, a step forward, a step back.  But I suppose all this is exercise that makes us stronger!  Thank you for caring and praying.  - - Gayle
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Lord, protect the believers in southern CA from the earthquake and tsunami in Jesus’ name. Provide the finances for Gayle and Earl to get wood and supplies for the winter. Send someone to provide transportation for the children who were picked up by the arrested woman. Send a miracle for the repair of the church roof before the snows come. Praise Your name for holding this church and community in the palm of Your hand!

Gayle, focus on your forward steps that the enemy tries to hinder.


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Focusing on the Lord, yes.  He is awesomely good despite what we SEE with our eyes!  Thank you for your prayers. 

We were disappointed by being unable to take our birthday trip, but took hubby out to lunch today.  It's been a good day in Jesus.  We are blessed! Eighteen months ago, Earl was fighting for his life, so we are so beyond blessed really!  He's 62 today.  : )
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Have a Blessed Birthday, Earl!

Lord, thank You for bringing Earl through the past 18 months. Thank You that the blood clot is in the act of dissolving. Thank You for strengthening him to do all the tasks that have been required of him with the pipes, garden, homeschooling, and preaching.  You are his Healer! In Jesus’ name.  


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Thank you!

I have recently collected mustard seeds from our plants. They really are TINY. I know we have that much faith.  : )

So, we have our question-marks on God's dealings with us. But what I tend to think is that God COULD miraculously remove the mountain of the clot in his leg and COULD remove the mountain of our debt. But the greater miracle is that we see day by day His mercies that carry us through despite the clot and debt. We are growing some major faith-muscles as we climb day by day, seeing Earl do what medical science says he shouldn't be able to do. We are growing some major faith-muscles as we climb day by day, seeing ourselves get to the end of a month with our bills paid when in the natural this isn't possible. Sure, I'd rather that God just shove the mountains. But God many times has spiritual fitness programs that just plain are not easy or fun.  We persevere and do some sweating. But we keep climbing and seeing that God is able.

A big prayer request for us is that the teens in our Sunday school class will take one of their feet out of the world. We are troubled at how even the good kids, stronger kids are tied into dark thinking and entertainment. It disappoints. And if it were a matter of Earl and I talking, the problem would be resolved. We have said almost everything we can think of to say, and we pray.  So others' prayer is so appreciated, as well.  Thank you.
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Gayle, what you said about faith in your circumstances of health and finances reminds me that God sometimes takes the scenic route.

Maybe the teens need to hear a comprehensive sermon on the subject of entertainment and accountability to God for daily activities. Perhaps they need to hear some examples of what has happened to people who were disobedient in those areas. Example: Pastor John Hagee warned his congregation not to watch "The Exorcist". One girl disregarded his warning and watched it anyway. Demons came through the screen into her mind. She had to be taken to a mental hospital. Another example: Medical studies have found that a major cause of nightmares is watching horror movies, reading horror novels, and listening to demonic music.

Lord, send something to grab the teens about the choices that they are making for their eyegates, eargates, and mindgates. You alone know what needs to be said or done to reach them about this opening in their lives to the demonic. Grant them spiritual wisdom and spiritual discernment while You convict their conscience. In Jesus’ name.


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Yeah, good point on the scenic route.  : )

The pastor actually did say something to the teens today in the sermon.  What is difficult is that the kids are caught in two worlds. Their parents are mostly in terrible darkness, and their friends are largely in terrible darkness. We can do what we can from our side, but they are pulled and pushed back and forth.  We have a bit more input with the kid we are homeschooling, but his family is wholly dysfunctional. His grandparents (who have custody) are fairly normal but want nothing to do with church, etc. His father is in prison. His mother is on psych meds and will come to church with hair uncombed and even once in her pajamas. She's shacked up with a man who is on psych meds and has his own issues. His brother has mental problems. And few of his friends are even remotely wanting to follow the Lord. (Friends to whose homes he escapes.) One girl who started coming--her stepmother slammed the door on her being involved with us again. And the others have their own issues. Even so, one today gave us the sweetest homemade card saying how much she appreciated Earl and me. Another stopped the service and asked if the pastor could get on his knees, and he went up there--on his own!--and prayed for God's blessing to be upon him. He also expressed his gratefulness in having such a wonderful pastor. Another expressed this week that she is seeking to make Jesus the Lord of her life. So, these poor kids are torn back and forth and back and forth between the darkness and light. They badly need our prayers.  Thank you for any you pray for them!  Thank you.
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Gayle, those gestures from the teens remind me of Aaron and Hur holding up the hands of the pastor, you, and Earl to encourage you and to give you moral support. They were beautiful gestures. That boy was led by the Holy Spirit to do something so heartwarming as that service-stopper.

I rebuke the strongholds that are preventing the teens from attending this church in Jesus’ name! I rebuke the mental illness in the family of the teen boy in the name of Jesus! I speak peace, love, and joy into the families of the church attendees.

Lord, let the Holy Spirit hover over the families of this church and do some spiritual housecleaning in Jesus’ name.


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Thank you. We've been hit kind of hard today... I got the scary call from our daughter saying that they were moving ahead with actual charges and removal of this coworker. Also, hubby Earl was working with a saw that slipped, and he did some damage to his finger. Being on Coumadin, it got pretty intense.  He became very dizzy but is now lying down with pillows under his legs. He seems to be okay. But I'm in hover-mode. Then, a few minutes ago I got a call that the oldest member of our church, a very dear pillar in our church community, fell and is on his way to the hospital. I don't know if the fall is the issue or whether he fell because he had a stroke or something. His name is Ed. Thank you for your concern and prayers.
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Wow, Gayle, action seems to be speeding up in this case.

 

 I rebuke the damage to Earl’s finger and the dizziness in Jesus’ name!  I command his blood flow and blood pressure to normalize in the name of Jesus! “For I will restore health unto thee, and I will heal thee of thy wounds”.

I reverse any damage that was done to Ed from the fall and/or medical problem in Jesus’ name! I command his body and circulatory system to align with God’s Word! “Jesus Christ maketh thee whole”. 

       

 

    


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They are moving fast on things at Charity's work but have agreed not to serve the charges, etc. on the employee until after the shutdown.

The elderly deacon in our church "only" took a very bad fall--face first. Got banged up badly, but is otherwise okay.

Hubby Earl is doing well. His finger is healing well.

On the downside, the kid we are homeschooling had a medical emergency this morning. He apparently became seriously shaky, his blood pressure spiked, and his pulse was racing and erratic.  He was raced to the hospital. They ran a bunch of tests but could find nothing wrong. He's wearing a heart monitor now to see if they can understand what happened. But it is pretty upsetting for all. He's such a good kid. And he was running well with hubby Earl. Now, there are some major question marks about how to proceed with that aspect of his education. So, we appreciate your prayers for him. He's 15 and does know the Lord.  Last week, the other deacon in our church fell on a roof and got banged up pretty good, wrenching his shoulder.  My pastor brother-in-law (in another state) prayed that whatever curse was on our church be removed. I think we needed that!  Thank you for your prayers.
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For the deacon: “His flesh shall be fresher than a child’s.”

Praise You, Jesus, for healing the deacon and Earl’s finger!

I rebuke the shaking, high blood pressure, and erratic pulse in the teen in Jesus’ name! I command his circulatory system, organs, and all body systems to function normally in the name of Jesus! “I will take sickness away from the midst of thee."

 
I command the other deacon’s shoulder and body to align with God’s Word!

 I bind in the name of Jesus every spirit of witchcraft and bondage that operate within and against the people of this church, the church building, and the church grounds. I displace in the name of Jesus all principalities, powers, strongholds, rulers of darkness, and spiritual wickedness in high places that operate within and against the people of this church, the church building, and the church grounds. Loosen, in Jesus’ name! “Upon this rock I will build my Church: and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”:

Gayle, could the teen possibly start with a brisk walk? If that goes well, progress to a jog? If that goes well, resume the running for a shorter distance to see if he can handle it again? If so, back to normal?

 

  

 


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Thank you for your prayers, Donna. Amen. We believe God is doing a work here, but it is difficult at times not to get discouraged.

The kid didn't feel well enough to come to school today, according to his grandmother. But when we get him back, we'll begin with short walks, yes.  Right now, he is still in a monitoring phase of having his blood pressure taken every day.

Hubby Earl has the service on Sunday. Appreciate your prayers for him.  Sometimes, he can be so anointed by the Lord that it is a marvel. Other times, it is like he's struggling through a sea of tar.  So, appreciate your prayers that the Lord will accomplish His will through him.  The pastor reassured me by email that he plans to address compromising behavior among our teens when he returns. Thank you for your prayers.
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Lord, strengthen the teen boy from whatever caused the physical problem. Bring healing to his heart, lungs, and body systems. In Jesus’ name. “I am the Lord that healeth thee.”

Grant your servant Earl divine utterance for preaching on Sunday. Let the power of the Holy Spirit descend upon him and the congregation. Speak to each person through the sermon. In Jesus’ name.


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Thank you.  Your prayers mean a lot.
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Hubby Earl led the service yesterday and did a very good job.  He went way over time, but no one seemed to notice (except me for I was concerned that people might be unhappy). The people were ministered to, I believe, in a powerful way. One (elderly gal) said she had never heard such things before. (Which I thought was sad, since Christians should KNOW many of the things he taught!) He went into 1 Corinthians 13 and some other passages in-depth, explaining the concept of what Christian love really should be.  He hammered each point in 1 Corinthians 13 hard. (In terms of our own congregation but also love toward other churches and our community.) 

Our pastor plans to speak next Sunday on occult influences, leading up to Halloween. He said he is going to call for fasting in our church for the children.  The medical community can still find nothing wrong with the young man we homeschool after his major crisis last week. But yesterday, at church, he badly sprained his ankle.  I would say the Lord is seeking to get his attention.

The teens did a song in church yesterday and plan to do a skit next Sunday.

Thank you for your prayers for our church. Blessings.  - - Gayle
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We can’t be clockwatchers when the Holy Spirit wants to have His way in a church service. Yes, that is sad when an elderly person has never heard the basics of Christianity. It sounds like Earl’s sermon spoke individually to the hearers. Halloween would, indeed, be a very appropriate time to address the issue of the occult to the youth.

I rebuke the spirit of infirmity in the teen’s ankle in Jesus’ name! I command his bones to align with God’s Word. “And immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength.” “Therefore Eli said ... If He calls you, say, 'Speak, Lord, for Your servant is listening.'"

 

 


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Amen.  Thank you. We have a teen (unwed) in our church who should deliver tonight. She's only 16. At last word, Mom and she live in a travel trailer without heat. We have so many difficult situations here. Thank you for your prayers.  - - Gayle
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Lord, provide a way for this family to keep warm with winter coming. The baby, especially needs to be kept warm to prevent sickness. We place this problem at Your feet, relying on Your mercy and compassion. “But my God will supply all your need according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus.”


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Thank you. She delivered the baby safely, a girl.  Thank you for caring.
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Thank You, Jesus, for the safe delivery of the baby. 
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Amen. Interestingly, another young person wants to come to our little school tomorrow. He wants to visit. I find this interesting, really. He's a very squirrelly younger kid in our Sunday School class. But we have seen a change in him and a growing hunger. We'll see what God does... Gayle
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Lord, if it is Your will for this boy to be homeschooled, then set the wheels in motion. In Jesus’ name.

 


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I think the kid was curious.  But I confess that I don't feel ready to take him on.  Our granddaughter is high-strung. I guess that's the best word to describe her. She's ever so sweet, but her personality is very strong, loud, dramatic. She's high-need. The boy who came today is a nice kid but high-strung, noisy, active... The three of them together didn't make for the most positive learning experience. We'll see how God leads. It is actually another young man who wants to be homeschooled by us but his parents aren't on that page despite how he's been flunking. That would present other issues if he did join our little school.  Thank you for caring and praying.  Earl did the one boy's report card today. He earned all A's and B's. And Earl and I are both hard graders.  His lowest grade was a B-minus, which was mine. He came pretty close to a C-plus from me because of his attitude toward English. But Earl did the math regarding his tests, and he did earn the B. - - Gayle

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Lord. Draw the people who You want to be homeschooled by Gayle and Earl while taking personality clashes into consideration in a virtual one-room schoolhouse. Cause the parent to acquiesce whenever it is Your will for their children to be homeschooled. Let each student have a favorable environment to his/her own learning curve.  You are the Divine Schoolmaster in working out the technicalities. In Jesus’ name. 


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AMEN!!!

We had a workday with the teens and one pre-teen yesterday (3 girls; 3 boys). They scrubbed two bathrooms, including walls; washed all the plastic chairs in the church; and cleaned out all the kitchen cupboards.  Today, they did a skit on Zaccheus. (I may have spelled that wrong!) Very good job. We also took them on another prayer walk around the church, in which they participated. We see some real growth in them.  But they're kids and have their issues. Most come from dysfunctional families. Another girl comes in and out, having family that don't want her involved. Yet another has health problems that keep him coming in and out. Other younger kids have disappeared because of parental issues, apparently.

The pastor is going to leave his talk on the occult realm for next Sunday.  Appreciate all prayers because this is a major issue for our church.  As I've shared before, we live in a mostly Mormon area sandwiched between the reservations. The land was apparently cursed. But I think, more, it just plain reflects the spiritual darkness of the people. Our major concern is for the teens who wrestle with occultic influences in their music, games, movies, and books. Thank you for caring and praying!
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Gayle, your church will be in tip-top shape by the time that the teen work crew gets done with it. In addition, they are learning prayer skills. My pastor told us that he visited Ollie’s Discount Store. Most of the teenage books were about draculas and vampires. The pre-teen books were about Harry Potter and Pokemon. All of these are demonic choices in books. Perhaps the teens could be given a suggested list of godly titles in the areas of music, games, movies, and books. They could keep journals of the titles that they pursued and how they changed their way of thinking. They could give book reports, etc., to the church. It could even be an inspiration to the adults to clean up their own viewing and reading.

Lord, heal the problems in the dysfunctional families. Renew the minds of the parents to allow their children to attend this church. Prepare the hearts of the congregation to hear the vital sermon about the occult. Impress upon them through the Holy Spirit to take this message seriously. Let Your Light drive out the spirit of darkness from the state of AZ. In Jesus’ name.


I rebuke any curses and the spirit of Mormonism that have been placed upon this land through the generations! I speak blessings and the Blood of Jesus over the state of AZ. I command the people and the land to line up with God’s Word and to become a godly state. In Jesus’ name.


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AMEN. I am so in agreement with Donna's words and heart, Lord God. May we see people heaping their occult items into piles to be burned as happened in the book of Acts!  Father, work miracles not only in Arizona but all across this darkened nation.  We are so desperately in need of Your help, Lord.

You know, those are some good ideas.  A bit overwhelming maybe in terms of research. I wish our daughter wasn't so overwhelmed right now because she's the researcher in the family. On top of all her other needs and pressures, her personal computer has been down about a week now. She's had major trouble with it.  Ever since she got this new laptop it seems she's had trouble.  So, another prayer need there. 

Thank you so much for your prayers for our family and our church family.  I'm going to give your ideas some further thought. Our granddaughter (with us) is reading virtually only Christian novels.  They're all girl-books, though, mostly. I haven't a clue what are good teen-boy books and games.  I'll give this some thought!  Thank you.  - - Gayle
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I rebuke the spirit of malfunctioning in Charity’s computer in Jesus’ name! I command it to align with the Word of God! I command all mechanisms to operate according to the way that they were intended! I plead the Blood of Jesus on this new laptop. In Jesus’ name.

Gayle, a couple of thoughts came to mind for teenage boys. Some could be used for teenage girls as well.

Left Behind series by Tim LaHaye and Jenkins. They probably come in DVD’s and movies, too.  

Battlefield of the Mind for Teens by Joyce Meyer.

CD for teen girls – Purity by Lisa Bevere.

Vanished (movie) by John Hagee.

DVD – “Sheffey” (about a circuit rider in stagecoach days).

”The Scarlet and the Black” (movie).

“Friendly Persuasion” (movie). 

Night at the Museum (movie)

 “Les Miserables” (movie)

 


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Thank you!  I do have the Scarlet and the Black. I agree that it is a good movie. We have a number of good movies and have shared some in Sunday School. Always looking for more although our finances are seriously thin right now. In the natural, things are going to be tight for us until probably February. (We get to the end of the month and have no clue how God did it for us.) 

We are interested more, actually, in books because we are encouraging the teens to read more. We hope they will replace their garbage books with stuff that is wholesome. Video games are another issue—seeking something less dark for them. But books are the main issue right now.

Our granddaughter has read some of my work, which never went anywhere. The published one is at: http://www.amazon.com/Starian-Wall-Star-Chronicles-ebook/dp/B005ZMQR96/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&sr=&qid=

She has read three others of my unpublished ones and really enjoyed them.

Our daughter's computer woes and stress from work have kept her from finishing two of our writing projects. That has been difficult from my side. But that’s small compared to all she’s presently facing. Thank you for your prayers.

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Gayle, any of those that I listed might also be in book form and probably are.

Lord, grant Gayle her heart’s desire for her books to be published. In Jesus’ name.


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Thank you. I'll let you know how it goes from here.  Our pastor will be giving his talk on Sunday on the occult, and I do hope that it will be a POWERFUL message that will convict us all.
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The enemy has been hitting us hard again. The evil one has declared war on one of our teens, using one of the moms of another teen. It's a long story, but the mom has been coming at Earl and me, as well. The pastor is going to sit down with Earl and me on Sunday to talk about the situation. I feel for him. I feel for us.  I feel for the attacked teen. I feel for the other teen, although she has issues. It's a mess. We will ratchet up our prayers.

One of the boys in the class doesn't have a coat for winter--wearing his grandmother's coat. That's another situation that Earl and I are going to try to figure out what to do about.

Our church numbers were down about half last Sunday again. We keep on keeping on. We're working on another skit with the teens, hammering against ungodly influences, praying... We should soon finish on the subject of the essentials of Biblical Christianity with the teens and are praying as to what direction to go in next with them. Because of this recent blow-up with the mother, we will very possibly lose two kids from the group. The homeschooling is one bright area. The neighbor boy and our granddaughter are both really doing well. And that includes a very difficult Bible study Earl does with them each day.  Thank you for your prayers.
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As for the coat problem, is there anything like a Salvation Army store or a thrift store or a consignment shop or a clothing bank in your area?

Lord, solve these problems of persecution against various people in the church. Bring unity among the members.  Increase the attendance and keep it stable. Provide a winter coat for the boy. I plead the Blood of Jesus on these situations. In Jesus’ name.


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Thank you. My sister just contacted me to say she bought him a coat and will have it in the mail. 

Appreciate the prayers for the one situation and our church. I laid everything out to a retired pastor that I trust--all that happened, and all my emotional upheaval. He had some good words, counsel, encouragement, correction. It was helpful. It is also a warning. I hope to get out the course-work on the Jezebel spirit. I think I need to see more clearly what we could be dealing with here and how best to handle it.  Thank you for your prayers.

Nothing new on the problem employee (daughter's work) beyond that he is still being a problem. He works hard, hard, hard to get out of all work.  It's pretty amazing.  Thank you for your prayers.  - - Gayle
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Praise the Lord! I have been thinking how demeaning it must be for a teen boy to have to wear his grandmother’s coat even though it keeps him warm. God bless your sister for showing compassion for that need.

I just don’t see how the mother could have found any fault in you and Earl. Your intentions are always pure toward the work of the church and the congregation.

I rebuke the spirit of Jezebel in this church in Jesus’ name! I command Jezebel to be exposed and confronted to the effectual ousting of her from the church! “And of Jezebel also spake the LORD, saying, ‘The dogs shall eat Jezebel by the wall of Jezreel’”.  In Jesus’ name.

I rebuke the spirit of laziness in the problem employee in Jesus’ name! “For the people had a mind to work.”  Neh. 4:6

 

 


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Sometimes Satanic attacks are not rooted in anything rational. The woman obviously has problems. I only want to make sure that Earl and I are doing everything we can to meet the needs of all the children. In a nutshell, this mother was abused as a child and has issues. She's protective of her daughter. I get it. But this is something like the third or fourth time that she has launched into a major meltdown over something relatively innocent.

The major problem she has with the class is that we have all boys (except another girl and her daughter). And the boys are boys, and the other girl is a tomboy on steroids. (Not literally. But she was raised with seven brothers, so she acts like one of the guys.) This is horrifying to the woman who feels they are a very bad influence on her daughter. None of the boys come from a Christian home. But all are there to learn. They interact and are respectful to us.  But they're teenage boys. In the middle of a discussion, one will say something, and the others will erupt into their stories or begin teasing each other. Or one might playfully smack someone's back or arm. Then, we have to get them back on-track. Earl was a public high school teacher who received something like seven Who's Who in American Teaching awards. He loves these boys, understands them, disciplines them... He can be very firm but also lets them be boys. And a lot of times they get wholly off-track of the subject at hand because they have so many questions. And Earl will stop everything to answer their questions. We also have been heading in one direction with the kids in their teaching, and the woman is upset that we aren't heading in a different direction--which she believes would be more profitable for her daughter.


I did read up on the ICIT material on Korah / Jezebel / Absalom.  We could be dealing with a mix of Absalom and Jezebel.  I sent it on to my hubby for his thoughts. We're fasting and praying today for all happening. Thank you for your kindness. I tend to beat myself up when there is conflict, feeling that somehow we should have prevented it or did better in dealing with the situation. You are being very kind in your words and support. Thank you. I do believe we are dealing with something potentially explosive here because the woman interprets too many things she sees in a very negative light and tells her perceptions as fact. PS Thankfully, the grandma's jacket is red and not too "female." But I feel for the kid.  My sis should have the new jacket in the mail on Monday.  Again, thank you.
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Gayle, the woman does seem to depict the control issue of a Jezebel spirit. Does she attend the teen classes and see what she thinks is going on or does her daughter tattle to her? The fasting should help. Your conference was probably about spiritual warfare to prepare you for problems such as these.

 

I rebuke the Jezebel spirit from disrupting the entire church in Jesus’ name! I command the spirit of Jezebel to leave the church in the name of Jesus! The Blood of Jesus is against the Jezebel spirit.  “Upon this Rock will I build My Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.” In Jesus’ name.




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The woman doesn't come to Sunday School. Her brother brings the girls. BUT he sits in the class. I'm unsure where he stands on things. He is "slow." When I saw that, I realized he felt more comfortable with the teens than the adults, so we invited him in. And the teens have accepted him. But I don't know what he is saying to her. I suspect that it is more the teen daughter reporting on things. But also, if her kids misbehave, the woman has gotten it into her head that they are learning the behavior from the other kids. No doubt, other kids can impact a young person. But Earl has maintained over and over (including to her) that each child is responsible for his / her own behavior regardless of outside influences. 

It is a good point, though, that the daughter may be as much a part of the problem as the mother. 

For example, her daughter asked if she could do something for Thanksgiving. A reading, a skit, or something. Earl said that it was fine--to come up with something if she wished. (I was only vaguely aware of their conversation.) That was the week before. Last week, I didn't think about anything he'd said to her. I came in with an idea for a skit on influences. I'd read a little story that I thought was great and wished I'd gotten it in time to do a skit before Halloween. I read it to the class and mentioned that maybe we could do a skit on it. The boys got excited.  I asked the daughter if she might want to write it up. She acted sullen and said "no." She didn't mention the Thanksgiving one. I was kind of surprised by her response but figured that she had done one (in the past) and wanted someone else to take it. So, I turned to the other girl (the tomboy) and asked if she'd like to do it. She got excited and said she would.  And I said that maybe this other girl and she could work on it together. The tomboy said that, no, she preferred to do it on her own.  I shrugged it off (figuring the other girl wasn't interested anyway,) and gave the tomboy the assignment. Well, one of the things the mother exploded at me about was that her daughter had planned to do one for Thanksgiving and was shoved aside. I told her that if she wanted to do one for Thanksgiving she still could. I had no problem with that. Having another skit possibly planned didn't mean the Thanksgiving one couldn't be done. I explained we wouldn't be there that weekend, but whatever the daughter wanted to organize was fine with me. The mother didn't climb down but jumped all over me that the other girl hadn't wanted her daughter's help with the second skit. I explained that I'd offered it to her daughter first. She just kept at me, getting angrier, telling me that we're Christians and should work together, etc. and etc.  The only thing I can figure is that this "sweet" daughter got her mother all riled up. So, I think you made a good point (in your question) that the daughter is a part of the problem. Earl is inclined to tell her she can be with the adults from here on and not in our Sunday School.
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Yes, each child has the responsibility of making wise choices daily. “Tomboy” might have realized that it would have been unpleasant working with “Sweet” because of her attitudes or maybe Tomboy likes to create projects on her own. I wonder if Sweet is like this in school and if her mother hangs out in the principal’s office with her grievances.

Lord, remove the chips from Sweet’s and her mother’s shoulders so that there can be productive interaction in the Sunday School class. I speak the spirit of peace into this time slot that is set aside for the personal growth of the teens. “He (they) grew in wisdom and stature and in favor with God and man.” In Jesus’ name. 


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The difficult woman didn't want her daughters in our class apparently, so they came at church time. After the service--a wonderful sermon on love from Ephesians 4, the woman started in on me about the young people. I said something like, "I hear," and kept going. Then, after lunch, she was at the door and launched into her own sermon on how terrible the kids were, how hers weren't. The pastor was out of the room at the time. (Actually, he was in encouraging the teens.) Some of the people launched their own negative thoughts on the kids. One fiery gal took the part of the teens, though. Earl stepped in about then. And the difficult woman walked out. The people went back and forth for some minutes until the subject changed--about the time the pastor returned. So, he didn't hear anything of the exchange. But he needs our prayers.  He is seeking not to take sides in all of this, but he said he wrestled through the week and sleepless nights. Thank you for your prayers.  "Tomboy" is still hurting. I fear the enemy is telling her this is all her fault despite reassurances it isn't. Thank you, my dear friend.   - - Gayle
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Gayle, I didn’t catch before that the woman had two daughters in Sunday School. No matter which group she or her daughters attend, she finds fault afterward. It appears that she enjoys an audience. Does the pastor know about the latest flare-ups since he wasn’t around to hear them?

Lord, mollify this mother and the church concerning their attack against the teens. Comfort  the teens to understand that this is the spirit of Jezebel causing dissension in the church. Bring unity to the members of the church – from young to old. Bless the pastor with restful sleep. In Jesus’ name.


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One is a teen, and the younger girl goes into another class when we have younger children. The past couple weeks, younger children haven't been coming to church; so young pre-teen girl has sat in our class. She would sit in stony silence throughout, including only looking at the songbooks we use but not sing. But maybe she was learning some things. I don't know. We did our best.

Earl and I are in the process of writing the pastor an email to explain the latest outburst.  It's difficult because we don't want to be a problem to him, a tattler. I sent over my thoughts to Earl, and he is writing up his own thoughts. We didn't mention who the person was who started the problem (although the pastor will probably guess) but want him aware that others are being infected by this unloving attitude.

Thank you for your prayers as we go forward. When one has a very small church, it is difficult for pastors not to want to do everything possible to keep people--even problem people. But if this woman continues on with her spirit of contentiousness and division, she would be a blessed subtraction, in my opinion.  I believe the Lord seeks to stir things in her to change and grow, but instead she keeps focusing in on everyone else. The pastor gave an amazing sermon on love yesterday and how we are to walk in love. It convicted me, and I renewed my determination to do better, work harder, ask God to help me to be more loving even to the contentious. But apparently this woman didn't hear a word.  Your prayers mean a lot, therefore.  Thank you.
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Lord, we submit to Your will as to whether you will transform this Jezebel or give her the boot in order to preserve the peace of the rest of the congregation. Satan will not prevail against this church. "Whom the Son sets free is free indeed." 

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Okay.  If you want to continue to dialogue, my email address is earlsgrl-action@usa.net

Thank you for your kindness and prayers. I wish you well.  - - Gayle
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